This is a follow-up to last Sunday's post, in which I discussed the problem that I (and Fuji, too) have been having with my comments on other blogs ending up in peoples spam folders.
A comment from, Bo, (replying to Night Owl's comment about only finding comments from Fuji and I in his spam folder) in that post, "Same thing for me - just Jon and Fuji. Blogger seems to think you guys comment too much, I guess.", got me to thinking.
It's been a week now since the thought came to me (I meant to do this post much sooner), so I can no longer run through the whole thought process (that's gone already), but nevertheless, I think I may have figured out what's going on.
I can't speak for Fuji, because I don't know what his process is when it comes to commenting, but for myself, I've been in the habit, at least over the last year or two, of reading people's posts on my phone each day, and then going back 3-4 days later and commenting where I can. I do this only because it's so hard for me to type on my phone, apparently that's gonna be a thing that I never get comfortable with.
Since I've already read the posts that I'm commenting on, and usually still remember the gist of the post, I don't need to read it again before commenting (given how lame my comments often are, I probably should though). By doing it this way, I can often leave upwards of 30-40 comments in an hour when I do come back to comment, and I now think that that's the problem; Blogger doesn't think that I "comment too much" overall, but I do think that it thinks that I'm leaving too many comments in too short of a timeframe.
Most of us have been blitzkrieged by spam bot on more than one occasion over the years, so you probably already know that when that happens, it will often choose a bunch of posts and leave the same comment on all of them in a very short amount of time, often within just a couple of minutes. It doesn't effect everyone though, because only so many will make it onto actual posts before they start going to spam. So, one person, or maybe a couple of people will get hit, then the comments stop showing up, at least publically. I can't tell you how many time I've seen someone get blitzed, but I seemingly don't get touched, only to later check my spam and see that they did in fact go after me too, it's just that none of their comments made onto my posts.
With that in mind, I'm thinking now that Blogger might have a program in place that gets triggered when too many comments are made by one user during a certain amount of time. After all, Blogger has no way of knowing that I've already read the posts that I'm commenting on, and therefor probably doesn't think, and rightfully so, that a real person could read, and comment on, 30-40 posts in one hour.
If I'm right, and I really think that I am, people can only leave so many comments in some pre-determined amount of time, and once you reach limit, this anti-spam program (?) marks any further comments as spam. Obviously, I have no way to verify this, and I have no way of knowing how long ones comments continue to be marked as spam, but I'm thinking that the system might reset itself every couple of hours.
Again, I don't know if there is any validity to this theory, but I do have two anecdotal bits of evidence to back it up...
1. This whole last week I've been trying to space out my comments, as in just leaving a couple per hour. This has been done by changing the time of day that I read posts, and commenting on them after the first read, as opposed to coming back days later and commenting on the already read posts. And you know something? It seems to be working. None of my comments have disappeared, meaning that none have been sent anyone's spam folders.
2. I will often check the "receive follow-up comments" box when commenting (especially if I ask a question), so I get the emails every time someone else comments on that post. A few days ago, Mr. Jafronius must've been catching up on his reading/commenting, because he commented on two of my posts, and there were emails showing that he had commented on a couple of the posts that I checked the follow-up box on. His first comment on one of my posts went through okay, but the second that appeared about ten minutes later went to my spam folder (which was un-spammed it of course). From the emails, I can see that he commented on a few more posts during those ten minutes, and I suspect that he went over whatever this limit is during that timeframe.
I feel like these two things really back up my theory, but until someone get an official answer, it'll have to remain just that, a theory. In the meantime, since I don't know what kind of threshold may be in place, I will be continuing to space out my comments, I figure 5 or less per hour shouldn't be triggering any bells or whistles. And if anyone has had this problem (i.e. Fuji), it might be worth you trying something similar, at least for a few days to see if some of your comments stop being marked as spam.
I definitely think you're on to something. It's the frequency and span of commenting in a short period of time that sets off the alarms for whatever program Blogger has.ReplyDelete
Twitter has something similar where you're allowed to tweet only a certain number of times within an allotted time span before you can't tweet anymore until the next hour or something (I don't know, it's never affected me, I don't tweet at an annoying rate).
"Frequency"! That's the word I was searching for when I was working on this post, and for the life of me, could not come up with.Delete
I'm kind of surprised to hear that Twitter has such a thing, especially given how much time certain people seem to spend on there. Some days my entire timeline is made up of tweets from just one person (not always the same person either). It's kind of annoying.
Just checked and both of your comments today came through OK. One of Fuji's two comments came in as spam.ReplyDelete
Huzzah! Fuji probably just hadn't seen this post yet.Delete
This is interesting, I have that issue on my blog too (Your and Fuji's comments on my blog sometimes go to spam for reasons I've never been able to figure out). This theory makes sense.ReplyDelete
Hopefully this will no longer be a problem!Delete
what's funny is, Mark's used to get sent to spam, yours didn't. either way, all comments to my blog go through moderation so I manually approve each one anyways, so I get to delete any spam if there is any, and approve all others. no biggie for me, they get published just not immediately.ReplyDelete
Yeah, I don't think it would ever be a problem if everyone did that, but they don't, so it has been.Delete
Sounds like a plausible causation to me as well. A friend of mine got a two week long Facebook suspension for liking too many posts without making any of his own. Sounds like Google uses something similar. I do wish that the blogger system had a "like' or something similar. I would often like to show that I read and enjoyed a post even If I have nothing worth saying in the comments. Just a subtle thing I could do to let the blog writer know that their time wasn't wasted in writing/publishing the post.ReplyDelete
I agree. I do like commenting where I can, but for the times when I can't, it would be nice to be able to let people know that I at least read their post.Delete
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a shot. School is starting up... so it might impact the amount of reading (and writing) I do anyways. The "Notify Me" is a whole different situation. By habit, I still click on it. But these days I only sift through about 20% of them. They get sent to my SPAM folder and the only ones I check are ones I remember leaving a comment on that I think there's a chance I'd get a response. For example... if I left a question.ReplyDelete
Good luck with the new school year! Hopefully this'll work for you too!Delete